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Today, we\u2019re speaking with Lauren\u00a0Aletta\u00a0from Inner Hue. Lauren is\u00a0the creator of two\u00a0Tarot\u00a0decks: the Lumina Tarot and the\u00a0Connected & Free Alchemist\u2019s Oracle<\/a>.<\/p>\n Now, I am a big fan of modern-looking Tarot decks. I believe that modern decks created by independent artists help bring new people to Tarot \u2013 and I\u2019m all about bringing Tarot into the mainstream.<\/p>\n Lauren recently sent me both the Connected & Free oracle deck and the Lumina Tarot. The Connected & Free deck is designed to support\u00a0you in connecting with your own inner wisdom, soul guidance and natural intuitive abilities to navigate the landscape of life. It\u00a0has\u00a050 oracle cards held safely together in a cute rustic mandala drenched brown box with the 133pg Guidebook that offers not only each card\u2019s meaning but also crystal suggestions for an added energetic boost. Within the 50 cards are also 8 chakra cards to potentially highlight any energetic blocks or expansions are occurring.\u00a0This is the second edition of the Oracle cards.<\/p>\n The Lumina Tarot<\/a>\u00a0is\u00a0also\u00a0now on its\u2019 second edition \u2013 and it\u00a0melds animal\u00a0magick, archetypal energy and symbolism together in potent visual imagery that will support you in accessing your own intuitive abilities.\u00a0It comes with a 185-page guidebook and offers both yin & yang, light & shadow.<\/p>\n I know these decks have been quite popular on Instagram because they\u2019re just gorgeous!<\/p>\n Let's get into it.<\/p>\n Additional Resources<\/b><\/p>\n You\u2019re listening to the Biddy Tarot Podcast, and this is Episode 91: The Lumina Tarot with Lauren Aletta from Inner Hue.<\/p>\n Welcome to the\u00a0Biddy Tarot Podcast, where you'll learn how to connect more deeply with your intuition and live an empowered and enlightened life with the Tarot cards as your guide.<\/p>\n Listen as Brigit and her guests share their very best tips and strategies to help you read\u00a0Tarot with confidence. Now, here is your host, Brigit\u00a0Esselmont.<\/p>\n THE LUMINA TAROT WITH LAUREN ALETTA<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Hello, and welcome back to the Biddy Tarot Podcast. As always, it\u2019s my absolute joy to be speaking with you today all about Tarot. And today, we\u2019re speaking with Lauren\u00a0Aletta from Inner Hue, and she\u2019s the creator of two decks: 1) The Lumina Tarot, and 2) The Connected and Free Alchemist Oracle.<\/p>\n Now, I am such a big fan of seeing these modern Tarot decks coming into play, and Lauren has certainly delivered that with her beautiful Lumina Tarot. When I first started looking at these cards, I thought, \u201cWow, finally we\u2019ve got the essence of the traditional Tarot but expressed in this beautiful,\u00a0modern, fresh, and vibrant way, and I\u2019ve always craved this kind of Tarot deck, where we can take the core essence of what the Tarot is really about, and we can bring\u00a0it into this modern world so that we can encourage so many more people to connect with Tarot. I don\u2019t know about you, but sometimes it\u2019s a little bit hard to connect with guys in tights and little boots and clothes that were relevant several hundred years\u00a0ago, and it\u2019s just really refreshing to now see Tarot decks such as this one with the Lumina Tarot coming out where it\u2019s much more modern, and we can relate to it much better.<\/p>\n So, anyway, I\u2019m chatting with Lauren today, and I\u2019m asking her about her inspirations with this deck and the process in which this deck came about. I have no idea how deck creators actually have the focus and energy to create a deck such as this, so I was so curious to find out more from Lauren what her process was and how she was working with her designer as well.<\/p>\n Obviously, it\u2019s a beautiful deck\u2014very modern. Lauren was saying it was coming with a 35,000-word guidebook. It\u2019s a fabulous little guidebook. It gives that core essence of the card plus the shadow side of the card.<\/p>\n Now, with the Connected and Free Oracle, I think it\u2019s 55 cards and, again, that very modern, fresh look. Incorporated in there are cards around the chakra centres plus some really beautiful life concepts, I\u00a0suppose you could say.<\/p>\n So, today, I\u2019m just going to get on with it. Let\u2019s just welcome Lauren to the Biddy Tarot Podcast.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Welcome, Lauren. I am so excited to have you on the podcast today. How are you going?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019m really well. Thank you, Brigit\u2014and I\u2019m excited, too!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, it\u2019s going to be fun.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019m totally loving on your deck right now. It\u2019s all laid out in front of me, so I can\u2019t wait to sort of dive in and explore a little\u00a0bit more about what\u2019s been going on.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0OK.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0But first, I would love to hear your story. What\u2019s brought you to this\u00a0place? In your business with Inner Hue, where has that emerged from?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0OK, I\u2019ll try to make this really brief! I have a background within the social sector. I worked as a case manager. I\u2019ve\u00a0worked remotely in different indigenous communities throughout Australia. Working with people was always a huge passion and interest of mine, but ever since I was a\u00a0little girl, I used to always be able to pick up on other information. I entered into the social sector basically because I couldn\u2019t feel like I could legitimately say, \u201cI just want to work with people intuitively,\u201d but yet I found working as a case manager, that\u2019s exactly how I was doing. I was working intuitively.<\/p>\n I learnt through many years of basically questioning people in a curious way that they have this beautiful knowing and knowledge themselves. So, when they would honour that, that\u2019s how they would become really empowered and step into their truth and light themselves up, and issues in their lives would begin to heal and resolve.<\/p>\n But it got to the point that I could no longer do that. I felt like I was hiding in the social sector through case managing or through use working. I was hiding within it, and I had to basically step into more of who I am, so I created Inner Hue on a\u2026 I could say on a whim, but it wasn\u2019t really on a whim. I look back now, and I think, \u201cGosh, you're a little bit crazy to have done that, quit your full-time, very safe, secure job to go out and do this,\u201d but that\u2019s exactly what I did. It felt very rash.<\/p>\n Part of that, when I was really focusing and honing into the energy, the entity that is Inner Hue, the guidance that was coming down was initially \u201cCreate an Oracle deck,\u201d and I thought, at the time, when the information came through, it resonated and it felt really amazing. It was very clear in its instruction. And then as what I think happens to everybody, when you think about\u00a0it a little bit more, when you're slightly out of that zone, you start to think, \u201cOh, that\u2019s quite crazy to do.\u201d But it is. I just continued to take instruction from what the information and guidance were flowing down for me, and I created an Oracle deck\u00a0that now has been a really amazing experience. But again, I look back, and I think, “Wow, I invested a lot of time and energy and money into something that I had absolutely no platform for launch it off of.” So, I'm thinking, “Goodness, you really were very crazy!” But yeah, I've just learnt so much, and it's been a really wonderful, wonderful adventure that I\u2019m very grateful for.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Wonderful. So, when was the Oracle deck published or launched?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0It went to presale basically early December of 2014, but I didn\u2019t send out the decks until mid-January 2015. So, it was probably around the 20th<\/span>\u00a0of January I finally had everything in my hands, and I was able to send that out to people. And when the deck published or launched, as you say,\u00a0that was in December, and I think I had 50 sales. From there, it\u2019s just slowly grown.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep. Amazing. And did you launch on a crowdfunding platform or your website?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0No, it was my website. I just created the deck with my own money, and I think that was the other thing that was really scary. It cost a lot of money of my own that I was putting into something that really I had no platform to launch it off. It was either going to go belly up or it was going to work, so I had to get my head around being OK with potentially it not working.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0So then, the Lumina Tarot started to come in\u2014when was that?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0That was in all of 2015, so I kind of did it back to back. I had\u00a0spoken like it was in there\u2026 I probably truthfully wanted to do Tarot first, but I just\u00a0didn\u2019t feel equipped. I felt a little bit nervous. I really wanted to be sure of myself. Even though the instruction came in with Oracle\u2026 It sounds silly if I\u2019m going to explain it, but humanly I went, \u201cOh, Oracle? But I really wanted to do Tarot!\u201d<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I know that feeling, yep!<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0But I just had to stick to the vibe, the energy, the instruction that was \u201cNo, it\u2019s Oracle.\u201d So, the whole way through creating Oracle, it was always, \u201cI wonder if I can do Tarot next.\u201d Once Oracle was out, I then went, \u201cOK, I\u2019m going to give Tarot a go.\u201d I had already started planning Tarot even while I was creating Oracle.<\/p>\n Lumina Tarot came out in November of 2015, and she\u2019s been a handful, but I like wild things, so I don\u2019t mind it so much!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep. That\u2019s amazing.\u00a0Just tracing things back with Oracle and Tarot, were you using Oracle cards and Tarot in your personal life as well? What\u2019s your connection with Oracle and Tarot?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I was given, which is really interesting, my first Tarot deck by my grandmother when\u00a0I was about 14 or 15. Now, this is not a woman who is at all into any kind of spiritual stuff or wasn\u2019t at all at the time, I think. As she\u2019s gotten older, she\u2019s certainly softened a lot, but she just thought\u2026 It\u2019s interesting. She\u2019s a very influential\u00a0person in my life, and\u00a0even though she poo-hooed\u00a0my\u00a0spiritualness\u00a0as a child\u2014and I don\u2019t mean that in a negative way; it just wasn\u2019t\u2026 She had a very different outlook on life, yet she managed to purchase me a Tarot deck, and I still have that Tarot deck; it\u2019s\u00a0a very special deck, and I keep that personally for my own use.<\/p>\n But I then began to use Oracle initially on a more consistent basis in my early twenties and probably again because I felt a little bit nervous around the traditional uses of Tarot that I didn't feel necessarily like I knew enough or equipped, but by using Oracle, I felt that there was more fluidity, and I had more freedom, and I didn't feel so boxed in by potential rules around\u2026 I guess I sensed from traditional\u00a0Tarotists\u00a0that there are strict guidelines that now I don't adhere to at all in terms of how I use Tarot, but that had to come through my use of Oracle.<\/p>\n So, I use cards very intuitively and basically just as a portal of energy. They allow me to connect into streams of energy that can be linked to that card that I'm picking up off that individual or if I'm doing readings for myself. So, I practised using Tarot traditionally, and I do know how to do that. I'm not at all at a level of skill that I can say I'd be competent in using Tarot traditionally to do really epic readings from that parameter or that way of doing readings, but I feel incredibly skilled at using Tarot and Oracle in the way that I use them. I love the history of Tarot, and I love the structure, the hierarchy, and the stories that are told, and the symbology within Tarot\u2014all of which was really important in how I wanted to create Lumina.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0We were just having a quick chat about this before we started the podcast. The thing that stands out to me with the Lumina is\u2026 Oh,\u00a0it takes everything that\u2019s in the Rider-Waite, but it translates it into something that is so now, which I think we need. What I\u2019ve seen, say, with Tarot decks\u2026 Obviously, we\u2019ve got the Rider-Waite and all the sort of derivatives of Rider-Waite, and then\u00a0we have some other ones that are a bit more mythical or faeries or dragons and angels and all that sort of stuff. And that\u2019s great because there are folks for whom that really resonates.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yep.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0But to be blunt, I just want to see modern stuff. My whole vision for Tarot is to see Tarot be modern, be accessible, be in the mainstream, and a deck like the Lumina helps make that happen.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yep.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I was looking at the cards, going, \u201cYes! She\u2019s done it!\u201d<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, I feel like\u2026 Right now, I\u2019m covered in\u00a0goosebumps. I know I said to you earlier, thank you so much. I feel really seen, and I feel really humbled because that's exactly, exactly had envisioned for Lumina. I wanted to take something traditional and make it modern, make it accessible, and make it a daily\u2026 It's a daily tool, just like women might use moisturiser, or we brush our teeth daily.\u00a0It\u2019s silly to say this, but it just feels such a wonderful addition to a part of any person\u2019s life that can have\u00a0something really fresh and modern that they can tune into, access so much richness and historical richness as well that comes with the energy of Tarot.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, because I think what you do with this deck is you honour, again, the history side of things, the core essence of the card, and yet it\u2019s translated into something much more in the here and now.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0You know, something I struggle with is we\u2019ve got more younger people starting to use Tarot, but it\u2019s almost like any way that you turn, there\u2019s this older space. Again, I\u2019m not putting it down at all; it absolutely has its place, but if you're a younger person, and you\u2019re living in more of this modern day space, and you want something that\u2019s modern to relate to, sometimes it can be hard because you end up going, \u201cOh, this looks like it\u2019s from a few hundred years ago!\u201d and you just want something that\u2019s now.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, really fresh.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep. I think it\u2019s absolutely beautiful. How do you do it? How do you start creating a deck that takes the essence of the traditional Tarot and then translates it into something so modern?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, OK. So, I think\u2026 I\u2019m trying to think. I don\u2019t want to be too longwinded, but\u2026 I don\u2019t know. I have a tendency to waffle.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s all good. Go for it.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0It started with, I guess, I really knew what I wanted to create first and foremost, and I think that\u2019s what\u2019s really important. Before you can really launch into a project, you have to feel the energy of it first. And it\u2019s going to take you on its own journey, and the energy of it will develop\u00a0and deepen and become richer and more expansive as you go on that little adventure of creating it, but you really have to know why you're doing it and what you want it to feel like at the end, once you\u2019ve finished making it. So, it\u2019s like a backwards-working process. You\u2019ve got to know that first. And I have to say that Lumina feels exactly how I imagined her to feel plus a bit more. She\u2019s got a bit more punchiness than maybe I had initially imagined, but I just adore her for it.<\/p>\n From there, I just worked\u00a0backwards. With the families and the elements they\u2019re linked to, it\u2019s all my interpretation of what earth feels like, what water feels like, and what those families feel like. I did lots of research while I was developing it. I love symbology. I love animal symbology, and so then I was linking up then what animals resonated then with those different elements and that would also fit in with the\u2026 If you look at the ancestral sort of story\u00a0of each family\u2026 And then, again, doing even more research and looking at the Major Arcana and the stories behind each one of those cards and trying to convey that story and that message of each one of those cards was important\u00a0but putting it into a fresh, modern take.\u00a0It just takes a little bit of time, but as you're doing it, you're just really being pulled by something that is kind of motivating you and creating the momentum alongside the thing you're bringing to life.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I don\u2019t know if that\u2019s clear, but\u2026<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, absolutely. So, instead of just doing the task of \u201cmust make Tarot deck now,\u201d it\u2019s a lot more just feeling through it and allowing the energy to come through.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I couldn\u2019t have done it if it was a \u201cmust make Tarot deck now.\u201d<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0No, because it\u2019s also really stressful\u00a0and really exhausting and lots of hard work. I think of just even the little Tarot book alone, I think there\u2019s roughly\u00a030,000 or 35,000 words just in that little Tarot book that are the descriptions of the cards. Yeah, to do that on top of making sure the\u00a0element and\u00a0energy and how each of the cards is laid out\u2026 So, if we\u2019re talking in a Photoshop sense, Teagan, who is the illustrator, each card is\u2026 I would write a description of how the card is meant to feel, so I knew when they were going to pick up Knight of Wands or Queen of Swords or the Magician, I knew the message and meaning behind that card, what it stood for, and I knew how I wanted that card to feel when the person was holding and what energy or information they were going to pick up just by visually looking at it, so I would describe that in a paragraph for Teagan to read.<\/p>\n I would then have another paragraph that was how I wanted that card to look. \u201cI want the person or the elements or the animal to be positioned like this and sitting in this way\u00a0and holding these different other little key pieces.\u201d I would describe to her basically how the card was meant to be drawn, and then I would draw a picture of the card itself. She would get this scribbled picture alongside two paragraphs that would describe how the card was meant to feel. She would then take that and draw it, using the information, and she gets me really well, so pretty much most of the time, it was spot on. However, there were some times where I needed to go, \u201cNo, that\u2019s not quite right. It\u2019s meant to look more like this,\u201d or \u201cIt\u2019s meant to feel more like that.\u201d<\/p>\n And then we went through the process. She would scan it all in, and we\u00a0went the through the process of doing all the watercolours that we would then scan into the computer, and then we would sit at the computer for absolutely hours on end with the card, doing all the different layers of Photoshopping that entailed to have the card in its finished product.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s so much work, isn\u2019t it? That\u2019s amazing.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah! But very fun.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I think it's quite an amazing thing to have it where you're visualising the card, and then someone else is expressing that visually, and to get that right, you need to be very in sync with each other.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0That\u2019s quite amazing.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Teags\u00a0gets my vibe, I think. And I think you also need to have space. I really want any person that I work with to\u00a0feel really autonomous and empowered by their own style and skill.\u00a0You can\u2019t micromanage that. You need to allow them to do their part of it and just go, \u201cAwesome. You\u2019ve nailed it on the head.\u201d<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0And then, so I hear that there was a revamp of the deck\u2014is that right?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Of Lumina?<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Is it Lumina or the other one?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0So, Oracle I had to\u2026 Yes, I put an extra five cards in Oracle, so it was now a 55-card deck, and there were, I think, 8 or 9 cards that were redrawn. Yes, so Oracle now, to me, has… It\u2019s like she\u2019s grown up a little bit. There was the first version of Oracle, and now there\u2019s this version, and yeah, she\u2019s a little bit wiser, a little bit more mature, a little bit more expansive and holding a larger kind of energy.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep, beautiful. With the Tarot deck as well, with redrawing that, was that just minor stuff, or were you changing things quite significantly?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0To me, it was minor. I know that there were a couple of quite big card changes, like the High Priestess, but yes, overall I feel like the changes that were made to Lumina were\u00a0just really\u00a0tweaks.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah. Is it kind of a living deck for you? As in do you foresee yourself making further changes? Or is it kind of done?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0No, I think it will be a living deck for me. Both of them.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I feel like pretty much everything that I create will be a living deck, so I'll either have to continue to keep it evolved and up to speed to the current energies and vibe of where we are because that's what so important\u00a0to me. Or I will retire them. If I really feel like, \u201cOK, you\u2019ve done your job,\u201d then it will be a retirement, and I would just no longer produce them anymore.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, that sounds so sad. Don\u2019t do that! How are you getting this deck out? How is it finding its way into the right people\u2019s hands?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, so it just started. I had my little website and an Instagram and a Facebook page, and people who had followed my writing or any of my work that I had done through the website that I would share on Instagram or Facebook, and when I started to announce I was creating\u00a0an Oracle deck and then a Tarot deck, and I was just showing some of the imagery of that, I just had wonderful, I suppose, supporters that wanted to support Inner Hue and myself and also were interested in what I was creating. They purchased, and from there, I guess, they shared the cards or the things that I created on their own Instagram and Facebook because that\u2019s what felt right for them to do, and from there I guess it\u2019s kind of been a little bit word of mouth. I haven\u2019t really marketed mostly because\u00a0I don\u2019t know how to! This is truth of it, if I\u2019m being honest.<\/p>\n But yeah, so in that way, it\u2019s just grown momentum with people sharing and seeing images and finding out where and being engaged, and also then coming and supporting, and that\u2019s how it\u2019s developed over time.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep. Do you think you would ever go down the path of having this deck traditionally published versus self-published? I\u2019m assuming you're self-published at the moment, right?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yes, self-published. Yes, I\u2019m definitely open to it. It would have to be in alignment with and honouring with the vision\u00a0of an issue and aligning and honouring of, I guess, the greater good and to make sure that it\u2019s still connecting up and supporting everybody that I would like for it to be because I feel a sense of loyalty to everybody who has supported me to this space. So, I would want to make sure that it would still meet a match and support in that way as well, if that makes sense.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0I\u2019m definitely open to it, but it hasn\u2019t arisen, so I guess\u00a0can\u2019t speak about it because I don\u2019t know what I would do!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep! I mean, looking at it, it reminds me\u2026 It\u2019s not exactly like, but it reminds me of the Wild Unknown. Do you often get that comparison?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, and I think that\u2019s because I have a really earthy energy, and I have\u2026 Yes, people pair the two together.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0And I think for those that know me personally, it\u2019s like, \u201cOh wow, no, that\u2019s exactly you, Lauren,\u201d because I have a very earthy energy. But for, I suppose, those who don\u2019t know me wouldn\u2019t know that about me, so they could think it\u2019s got a very Wild Unknown vibe.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I think of, say, Kim with the Wild Unknown, what she\u2019s done in terms of\u2026 It\u2019s published. It\u2019s in Urban Outfitters and Anthropologie, I\u00a0think, in the U.S. She\u2019s got such a massive reach with it, so I just see your deck and think, \u201cWow, there\u2019s so much potential in this, too.\u201d<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah. She and I have a\u2026 I don\u2019t want to say this in a negative way. It\u2019s not negative. It has a deeper or darker or more witchy vibe, which I love about her deck. Yeah, it feels very magic in that sense\u2014alchemy magic. I think people when they describe, they'll see my deck has the Wild Unknown vibe, but it feels maybe larger in a way.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah. I would agree\u00a0because I love looking at the Wild Unknown, and then I find it hard to read with it.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0And I do get a different kind of feel off your cards. I think this intersection is where it\u2019s this modern translation of the deck, and I don\u2019t know.\u00a0I really think we need more of this being put out in such a big way because I think decks like these are what will help move Tarot into the next evolution.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yes.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0And again, it\u2019s not washing away what Tarot is and has been, but it\u2019s evolving\u00a0it into\u00a0a new layer.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yes, it\u2019s a modern tool.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah!<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0And it\u2019s accessible to everybody rather than it being just for occult types. It\u2019s not like that at all.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yes, and decks like these make it so much more approachable so\u00a0that\u00a0there is something that you can feel cool and hip and modern using cards that look like this.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Rather than having to then sort of explain, \u201cWell, this court card here\u2026 Yes, he looks like he\u2019s a knight in shining armour, but really he means this\u2026\u201d<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Right, yeah.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0I think it\u2019s fabulous. Who would you recommend this deck for? Who and what kinds of readings does this really resonate with?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0That\u2019s hard for me to answer because I guess I use it for me. I think I use it for an assortment of things. I use it for when I\u2019m doing readings for people when I do intuitive readings so that they\u2019re not at all Tarot readings. I don\u2019t do Tarot readings; I do intuitive readings, and I use Tarot or Oracle cards as a way to tap into an individual\u2019s energy. So, I use it like that, but I know lots of people who use these cards specifically for Tarot readings.<\/p>\n Then I also have, I would say, more people that just use it for their own personal use. They\u00a0vibed\u00a0with the cards. It resonated with them, so as part of them exploring themselves and their lives, they have these tools to\u00a0use as a way to access guidance and information and insight into particular situations or areas of themselves and their lives that they\u2019re wanting a little bit of extra support and navigation with.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah, I have people that use it within their business, so when they\u2019re developing new business plans and things like that, it\u2019s really cool. They will also use cards as a way to help map out their future endeavours. I think really the benefit with any Tarot or any Oracle, not just the ones that I\u2019ve created, is that you get to decide how you want to use them, and that was a very freeing kind of idea that I came to embody, rather than feeling overwhelmed or feeling like I need to use it the way that it\u2019s always been used. Why can\u2019t I just define how I like to use it and go from there?<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0That\u2019s honestly how I would love for the cards to be used, for people to purchase them that I\u2019m grateful for and then go, \u201cPlease, they\u2019re yours\u00a0now. Make them your own. Use them how you would like to use them. There is no right or wrong way.\u201d<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Absolutely. On sort of a societal level, I feel like that\u2019s where we\u2019re\u00a0moving towards as well. We\u2019re breaking free of rules and structure and coming\u00a0back home, and that home is inside of us. Even just having that represented through this deck, where it\u2019s you make of it what you want to.<\/p>\n What I also really like about the deck\u2026 Well, I always get frustrated if I get a new deck, and there\u2019s no\u00a0guidebook,\u00a0or it\u2019s just a couple of lines, or it looks like it\u2019s just\u00a0copied and pasted from the Rider-Waite. I think, \u201cOh man! I want to find out more about what\u2019s the inspiration behind the card.\u201d So, you have this awesome little book that comes with it. As you said, it\u2019s 35,000 words, so it\u2019s quite substantial.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0That\u2019s the Lumina, yeah.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0It gives guidance, and it gives space to turn it into what feels right for you and for that card. I think you\u2019ve done really well there. And the shadow\u2026 I just wanted to ask, with the shadow side, is the intention of that for reversals, or is it more to explore that every card has light and shade in it?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Well, both. I guess it was initially there to be able to\u2026 If people wanted to use reversals, there was that\u00a0option. I know that I mentioned that at the beginning of the guidebook and kind of said, \u201cLook, that\u2019s entirely up to you.\u201d I personally don\u2019t use\u2026 I don\u2019t follow a traditional system. If a card comes out, and it\u2019s reversed, and I get this feeling that it\u2019s \u201cOh, this is telling me something because it\u2019s coming out in that way,\u201d then I\u2019ll pay attention to that feeling and look at the guidance of the card or read the meaning of the card in a reversed way. However, sometimes a card will come out reversed, and\u00a0there is no accompanying feeling with it, so I don\u2019t pay any attention to it, but I did want to express it. With everything, there is a shadow and a light. There is never just light, and there never is just shadow, so yeah, that was one of the reasons why\u00a0I wanted to include that down at the bottom as well and, again, just to add depth because I\u2019m one of those people that look inside everything.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yeah. It\u2019s neat. Awesome. What\u2019s coming up next for you? What\u2019s on the horizon?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Well, nothing card-like at the moment! I\u2019ve just created\u00a0Into the Woods<\/i>, which is a book, which is a really, really beautiful book talking about basically soul growth and how we all go through a cycle of growth in seasons. We all have a winter, spring, summer, and autumn,\u00a0and how this takes us on our own depth of journey and adventure, and it helps us to understand what\u2019s going on between what I called our human selves and our soul selves a lot of the time.<\/p>\n I have contemplated actually not just a little bit… I\u2019ve thought\u00a0quite a lot about developing a couple of card reading guides that can help people in\u00a0navigating each of their seasons\u2014winter, spring, summer, and autumn. And other than that, I\u2019m moving back into the area of, I suppose, teaching energy and teaching how to\u00a0tap into your own natural, intuitive, and energetic abilities to use for lifestyle, to navigate your life in a really aligned and potent way.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep, beautiful. Are you doing that online, in person, or a bit of both?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Both.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, neat. I\u00a0love the idea of the book. Will that be something that\u2019s self-published?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, thank you! Well, it\u2019s out now. I should send you a copy!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Oh yes, please! That would be awesome.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0All right. I\u2019ll send you a copy. You can have a look at it.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Oh, nice. And is that something you put on Amazon big distribution or on your site?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0It\u2019s on my site at the moment. It\u2019s in the works of putting on Amazon. I just kind of wish I was an octopus that had eight arms and maybe a few more heads!\u00a0That sounds like a scary creature. Just because I\u2019m slowly just list ticking and getting everything up. So, essentially, yes, one day it will be up on Amazon. It\u2019s not there yet, but it\u2019s in the long list of things to do.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep. Well, it took us 9 years to get our e-book onto Amazon.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Wow. Cool\u2014you're making me feel a hell of a lot better! Thank you.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Yep, yep. Fabulous. Where can people find out more about you, Lauren?<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Inner Hue! That\u2019s I-N-N-E-R H-U-E. My website will link you\u00a0to Instagram or Facebook, but if you can just Google Inner Hue, you\u2019ll be able to find me in all the places that perhaps you\u2019d like to find me on!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0We\u2019ll also post your links\u00a0and, with your permission, images of some of the cards from the deck, and those will be over at BiddyTarot.com\/91, along with all the show notes and the transcript for today and all that good stuff. So, Lauren, it\u2019s been such a joy to have a chat with you, and I am loving this deck. I can\u2019t wait to dig into it even more, and plus the Oracle. We didn\u2019t even get to cover much about the Oracle, but that is just as gorgeous. We were flipping through it, my daughters and I, over a story time and just\u00a0loving it,\u00a0so it\u2019s great.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Thank you!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0All right. Thank you so much.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Thank you, too, Brigit. Nice chatting.<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0Bye.<\/p>\n LAUREN:<\/b>\u00a0Bye!<\/p>\n BRIGIT:<\/b>\u00a0So, there you have it. I hope you enjoyed that conversation as much as I did. Remember: You can find\u00a0out more about Lauren and see some visuals of the Lumina Tarot plus the Oracle over at BiddyTarot.com\/91. You\u2019ll also get the transcript to today\u2019s show and all sorts of other goodness.<\/p>\n I hope you have a wonderful week, and I\u2019m really looking forward to connecting with you again very, very soon.<\/p>\n Bye for now!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":33836,"template":"","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[140],"tags":[182,210,348,346,54,347],"yoast_head":"\n\n
Podcast Transcription<\/h2>\n
NOW, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND AROUND THE LUMINA TAROT\u2026<\/h3>\n
The Lumina Tarot with Lauren Aletta<\/h2>\n